The Baby or the Dream

The Association of Psychoanalytic Psychotherapy of Western Australia (APPWA) proudly presents

The Baby or the Dream

a seminar with

John McLean

John is a training analyst with the Sydney Branch of the Australian Psychoanalytical Society. He has been active in teaching and outreach events and has a particular interest in the relevance of literature and film to exploring psychoanalytic ideas.

The paper discusses the debate about the value of infant development studies to psychoanalysis. Both have their importance, but John emphasises the unique state of mind that is the analytic attitude, which is different from the scientific observer’s attitude in developmental studies. Our stance and underlying theory influence what we can observe: are we thinking of the baby or the dream. The paper illustrates these issues with reference to the film “Ulysses Gaze” and to a case report where this confusion of observational attitude.

When: 28th of October 2017 

10am to 12 noon (Registration at 9.30am).

Where: Swan Yacht Club, Riverside Road, East Fremantle 

Cost: $80 

APPWA members and affiliates and students $60

Cancellation policy: Cancellation after 18th October 2017 will not be refunded.

Please send registration form to PO BOX 965, Subiaco WA 6904 or email

Registrations close 18th October 2017

What is APPWA?

The Association for Psychoanalytic Psychotherapy of Western Australia (APPWA) is a multi-disciplinary body of psychotherapists with advanced training in psychoanalytic psychotherapy

APPWA seeks to promote and support the highest possible standards of clinical practice, training and ethics in psychoanalytic psychotherapy in Western Australia and to this end provides continuing education and supervision for practicing psychotherapists.  Find out more about APPWA.